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BORK!BORK!BORK! Weary travelers making their way through airports have enough to contend with these days without some Microsoft borkage popping up over departure information. Heathrow airport departure boards display flight information with a Windows activation watermark on screen. A Heathrow Terminal 5 flight information …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I for one

    definitely prefer that companies I do business with NOT pay Micro$uck for any of their crap.

    I'd rather they use Linux instead, but at least if they're gonna use Windoze garbage I'd rather they pirate it.

    Maybe somebody should point them at the MAS scripts though.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I for one

      Well, okay, but could you maybe try playing up to the "Linux fanboy circa twenty years ago" stereotype a little less?

  2. xyz123 Silver badge

    So many companies literally use hacked versions of windows for their signage.

    BT, BA, Sainsburys, Morrisons, Waitrose, Tesco, goahead (bu company)

    ALL have been seen with signs showing they have unregistered/non activated copies of windows XP. A few have shown errors indicating they were pirated editions with cracked product keys that have since been blocked.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Ah yes, but they have lawyers to keep them out of the clutches of FAST, no such luck for end users of SMEs..

      1. Michael Strorm Silver badge

        Speaking of FAST, are they still going after pirate copies of Bloggo's Pow?

    2. AtomicDog

      It constantly amazes me that there isn't a dedicated digital signage Linux distro with management application. It wouldn't be rocket science, it just needs a bit of standardisation for software vendors to develop against.

      1. AndrueC Silver badge
      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        a dedicated digital signage Linux distro

        This would be just as bad or even worse than the M$ option: incessant package updates, systemd fuckery, mindless GUI changes every week, etc.

        1. FIA Silver badge

          Re: a dedicated digital signage Linux distro

          Don't be daft. It'd be an amazing sign. Fast, fully customisable, crash free. Just what everyone wants (even if they don't know it).

          Sure, it'll display all prices in French francs until you run that really obscure shell script but that'll be your fault somehow.

      3. Linker3000
        Holmes

        This is a sign of the times

        What, like this?

        https://xibosignage.com/open-source

        https://github.com/xibosignage/xibo

        If only!

        /OK, it's not a dedicated distro, but it is very good.

      4. Gavsky

        WHAT? A sensible & efficient approach to digital signage, er...runnage? Go & stand in the corner & think about what you've done.

      5. doublelayer Silver badge

        Mostly because there's not that much a standard needs to do. Any normal distro not optimized for signage can manage the display and network hardware. The specific content on the sign might be unusual enough that you need a home-built GUI application to display it, but for most other things, there are plenty of simple display programs or a browser running in Kiosk mode which can do the job.

        I think a standard signage distro would have some of the same problems that affect things like low-code automation tools, content management systems, and things with similar levels of user involvement. Either they're so open that you can do anything, but you need most of the same skills you would have needed if they didn't exist at all, or they are simplified so you can only do the subset of things the creators thought of and, if you want anything slightly different, you have to abandon the version built on the standard and build your own.

      6. Monty Burns

        "It constantly amazes me that there isn't a dedicated digital signage Linux distro with management application. It wouldn't be rocket science, it just needs a bit of standardisation for software vendors to develop against."

        I've managed the Subcontractors deploying FIDS (Flight Information Display Systems) at a few airports around the world and, it's same reason most (not all) companies run Windows - common management standards, mostly through GPO's.

        The FIDS Windows Activation message isn't going to hinder the system technically in any way, in fact, when going through deployment/commissioning they are often not activated. Usually, they only start getting activated during the ORAT (Operational Readiness and Transfer/Test (Test/Transfer depends on who you ask) as we start getting test public groups in and officials. ORAT can last a year.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No, it's that PLANE's software that needs activating

    That's why it only shows on that one flight.

    The rest is OK but this specific plane may need a reboot mid flight to keep it going. It'll have to make sure it's a a high enough altitude to do that so it can afford to lose some height while the systems try to talk to Microsoft via the satellite link. That is, of course, assuming that happens when there's a decent signal, otherwise passenger may get to test if their life jacket whistle and blinky light do indeed attract any attention in the middle of the ocean.

    BTW, that plane is probably made by Boeing.

    What, too soon?

    1. Evaluator

      Re: No, it's that PLANE's software that needs activating

      I would not get on a plane that runs on legacy Windows 11. Note that some anesthesiologists run EEG monitoring software on Windows to monitor brain waves of people sedated for surgery. Yes, those laptops have locked up during surgery and yes, brain damage has occurred. But really, how addicted are some people to primitive legacy operating systems?

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Re: No, it's that PLANE's software that needs activating

        > legacy Windows 11

        What? Have they released W12? How long was I asleep?

        1. Linker3000

          Re: No, it's that PLANE's software that needs activating

          Well, you've been 'under' a little longer than planned, but good news, your brain surgery went mostly without a hitch.

          Erm, you might need to take any old tenners in your wallet to a bank.

    2. Gavsky

      Re: No, it's that PLANE's software that needs activating

      "Sh*t! Where's the floppy gone? Quick! What's it doing in there? Christ, it's got coffee & fluff all over it!"

      "PULL UP, PULL UP"

  4. MatthewSt Silver badge

    Flight mode?

    'Nuff said!

  5. CorwinX Silver badge

    It's a good job...

    ... that Microshaft haven't been able to worm their way into flight control systems.

    Planes would be dropping out of the sky every patch tuesday.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: It's a good job...

      And on every other day, they wouldn't get off the ground.

  6. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
    Coat

    Drop bags…

    Bags were once a schoolboy name for trousers (dacks another.)

    So [to] Active Windows drop trousers.

    I am sure anyone who has ever dealt with MS gets the picture.

    There are plenty of realtime and embedded OSs that would be more suited to this application than any version of Windows. Many are open source and at least one is GPL viz eCos (eCosPro is proprietary) and most will run on fairly basic microcontrollers.

    What surprises me is that these screens clearly are presented to the application as a raster graphics display when the displayed data is purely textual and could be described by a terminfo entry and driven through a curses library. A FPGA could convert these large displays into a serial 80 column x 128(?) row VT type terminal screens.

    A basic rule: if a thing can do something that it never needs to do, ensure that it really can't. Things that do stuff that they never need to do cause enough grief in this world as it is.

    † And people but disabling them is a little more involved than flicking the write protect switch.

    1. Anonymous Coward
    2. Monty Burns

      Re: Drop bags…

      LHR uses SITA FIDS, at least it did last time I was there working on these systems. It's presented as HTML5, CSS3, and JavaScript.

      They used to run Windows CE. Now they run normal Windows. I don't work for SITA.

  7. Michael Strorm Silver badge

    "Ethel Grapefruit (Mrs)"

    Which gang were you a member of? The Garden Gang or the Munch Bunch? Were you rivals like the Bloods and the Crips?

    Was there any truth to the rumour about Alice Apple and Peter Potato?

    What was the deal with the seemingly bizarre fact that- according to Wikipedia- both series came out at almost exactly the same time? Did one rip off the other- the timing seems too close- or was it a genuine coincidence?

    Did Jayne Fisher pay you a share of the royalties for your likeness or did she keep the billions for herself and retire to a Caribbean island at the age of fourteen?

    And are you jealous that Methyl Orange was more successful than you in the pH indicator business?

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Instead, how about a nice sit-down, a beverage, and a delicious biscuit?"

    A nice cup of tea, some biscuits and even nicer sit-down as the Sun has appeared and is shining at me. Not too common here in North.

  9. glennsills@gmail.com Bronze badge

    Is this on purpose?

    It's as if someone at Microsoft is secretly trying to boost Linux.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This kind of stuff is a sodding joke. Can't IT guys just do an actual good job for once and make actual correct choices?

    If you must use Windows for this, you activate it offline, permanently, you don't rawdog it on the internet, you just do sane fcking things...

  11. Gavsky

    "This is the Multi-faith room, Zone A; there is no praying in Zone A. Please only pray in Zone B"...

    With apologies to...some film, or other.

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