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SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son revealed plans to invest $100 billion in the US and create a minimum of 100,000 jobs in the next four years. Son made his promise while speaking alongside president-elect Donald Trump, who hailed the pledge as an "historic investment" and "a monumental demonstration of confidence in America's future …

  1. Tron Silver badge

    Hmm.

    If foreign investors can buy chunks of the future of US tech via SoftBank, why can't Nippon Steel buy US Steel?

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Hmm.

      1, Because technology isn't as vital to the USA as building battleships

      2, Cos it's called Nippon Steel and it's buying US steel. Remember Pearl Harbour ?

      3, Softbank is just the Saudi sovereign wealth fund and the Saudis have always been our greatest allies.

      1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

        Re: Hmm.

        I thought Eurasia had always been our greatest ally?

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Re: Hmm.

          No, we've always been at war with Eurasia

          1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

            Re: Hmm.

            Oh right. Thanks for the update. And who will we always have been at war with tomorrow?

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Always loved them

    Sotybank are great.

  3. Richard 12 Silver badge

    Did the $50B happen?

    Past performance isn't a guarantee of future returns, but it'd be interesting to learn whether they actually did anything last time they made the promise.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Did the $50B happen?

      Apparently yes, with half going into WeWork. Although this announcement is seen as a change in PR rather than investment strategy.

      https://www.axios.com/2024/12/16/softbank-donald-trump-masayoshi-son

    2. katrinab Silver badge
      Meh

      Re: Did the $50B happen?

      From what I can gather, he had some beginner's luck with Alibaba, and has lost on pretty much every other investment since.

      1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

        Re: Did the $50B happen?

        He's made some shrewd early investments (and did quite well out of ARM) and some shockers, including WeWork. But it's okay because it's OPM™ (Other people's money).

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Re: Did the $50B happen?

          He made some terrible early investments and lost 99% of the fund's money in the dot-com crash.

          He survived cos of an investment in Alibaba and then spent the time since funneling Saudi oil $ back to the US / transferring the Saudi sovereign wealth fund to an Israeli con-artist genius

      2. pimppetgaeghsr

        Re: Did the $50B happen?

        ARM has netted him $100billion so far on paper at least. He did sell NVIDIA in 2018 though.

    3. Irongut Silver badge

      Re: Did the $50B happen?

      A well written news artice would have included this information.

      But that seems to have gone by the wayside with El Reg this year. The last article I read had an obvious factual innacuracy in it.

    4. Charlie Clark Silver badge
      Go

      Re: Did the $50B happen?

      Your name is Reacher Gilt and I claim my five Ankhmorpork Dollars!

  4. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

    what an utter crock

    Of shit.

    Lies and grift all the way.

  5. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Joke

    Bedtime Reading

    Wonder if Masayoshi Son has an inscribed copy of this for bedtime reading

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_the_Deal

  6. Howard Sway

    How do you spot a tech billionare?

    Orange lips

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Cynical thought

    He / they wouldn't be trying to influence the outcome of the Arm / Qualcomm trial, would he / they?

  8. Dan 55 Silver badge

    "SoftBank is known to be trying to capitalize on the ongoing AI boom."

    Absolute snake oil, I wonder what's going to happen when VCs stop the music and start demanding a return and everyone's left with huge underused data centres and Nvidia GPUs.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: "SoftBank is known to be trying to capitalize on the ongoing AI boom."

      They can finally run $VIDEO-GAME meme ?

    2. pimppetgaeghsr

      Re: "SoftBank is known to be trying to capitalize on the ongoing AI boom."

      False economies like Cloud gaming will magically make a comeback I'm guessing.

  9. Ace2 Silver badge

    Maybe they can take over that Foxconn site in Wisconsin

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      That site is already 2 chip fabs, a data center, an EV battery plant and a combined nursery and orphan kitten sanctuary.

      The number of cut up ribbons on the ground is staggering

      1. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

        Here's a short timeline of Foxconn's plans and development in Wisconsin

        Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

        November 20, 2023

        Foxconn promised a $10 billion investment in Wisconsin and the creation of 13,000 jobs

        Foxconn originally promised to build a Generation 10.5 facility that would manufacture large LCD screens. The project was to be an investment of up to $10 billion that would deliver up to 13,000 jobs.

        [. . .]

        What has Foxconn built since expanding to Wisconsin?

        Not what it originally promised. The facility has changed from a Generation 10.5 to a Generation 6, which normally makes screens for phones, tablets and TVs. But so far, no screens have been made.

        About 100,000 masks were manufactured at the companies facility in Mount Pleasant in 2020 during the coronavirus pandemic.

        There have been rumors that the company is developing servers for Google but that has not been confirmed by either company.

        On a call with analysts in March, Foxconn chairman Young Liu said the company is planning on making electric vehicle batteries and energy storage components to support its EV facilities in Ohio.

        The company has said it employs more than 1,000 people.

        Ribbon strewn ground aside, by my math, 1,000 < 13,000.

        Props for the kitten sanctuary, though. I like kittens.

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Well when I say "Is" I mean "Is promised to be" and as we know all announcements of massive infrastructure investments always come true.

          1. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

            So now we're arguing. . .

            . . . what the meaning of "is" is.

            Been there. Done that. Was a roadie on the tour.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          re: I like kittens.

          Which produce 'Childless Cat Ladies'.

          DJ Couch potato and his lord and master Elon the Muskrat do not like them. A woman's job is to stay at home and produce babies, look beautiful and be there for her husband, to not say anything that might stop said hubby from becoming a politician etc etc etc

          AKA A Traditional Wife. This is what many about to take power want for the their part of the USA. The rest is there to serve them.

          1. Tilda Rice

            Re: re: I like kittens.

            > A woman's job is to stay at home and produce babies

            He gave the project lead to Barbera Res on Trump Tower his most important project at the time. He didn't think she should be at home having babies.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: re: I like kittens.

              A lot of Trumps most hard core sycophants are all for turning the USA into a White Hegemony. Women would be there to serve men.

              Yes, this is a lot like 'A Handmaids Tale'.

              That book was meant as a warning much like 1984. But the 'Traditional Wife' movement is going strong mostly in Red States. Add in the Roe vs Wade reversal and the fight over availability of reproductive healthcare for women, hammers home their views that Women are subservient to men and should get on their backs and... {you fill in the rest} and make babies (white ones) for the good of the USA.

              I have been researching it for over a year and am in the middle of writing a fiction novel where the central character is a 'Traditional Wife'.

              This misogyny is one of the reasons why the US won't elect a woman as POTUS.

              Go ahead and downvote but it is the truth. The likes of Trump and Bannon and the rest will want this sort of thing ASAP.

              Yours,

              A former Republican voter.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: re: I like kittens.

                @AC

                "A lot of Trumps most hard core sycophants are all for turning the USA into a White Hegemony. Women would be there to serve men."

                I assume you mean an extremist group? Not the majority of voters who voted for Trump. He won in a pretty spectacular display of support across the states. Similar to the extremist groups of the left who want a communist utopia like the USSR? There will always be groups with extremist beliefs.

                "Yes, this is a lot like 'A Handmaids Tale'."

                Not seen it but wasnt the premise that things were enforced by gov?

                "But the 'Traditional Wife' movement is going strong mostly in Red States."

                I have heard of this. People CHOOSING a way of life similar to previous generations. It is freedom of choice just like some couples can choose open relationships and strong independent bear botherers.

                "Add in the Roe vs Wade reversal and the fight over availability of reproductive healthcare for women"

                Roe vs Wade was a terrible contortion of the constitution to somehow dictate federally the reproductive healthcare of women. All that happened was the poor interpretation of the constitution was reversed so there is no federal dictation of healthcare for women.

                "hammers home their views that Women are subservient to men and should get on their backs and... {you fill in the rest} and make babies (white ones) for the good of the USA."

                One of the most amusing responses to Trump winning was women saying they wont just go have sex with rando's and will be more careful when it comes to getting pregnant. Almost as though they considered abortion to be contraception. But more-so the response to that seems to be- good, if you did that in the first place there wouldnt be so many abortions. Why they believe Trump will/can ban abortions when its no longer a federal issue is strange to me, and the women are voters too so how are they subservient? From over here it just looks like tall tales taken way to seriously.

                "This misogyny is one of the reasons why the US won't elect a woman as POTUS."

                How many options have they had for this? I know Hillary ran against Trump and recently Kamala against Trump. So I can see why neither of them got elected especially considering their opponent. That doesnt look like misogyny just an obvious decision considering the options. Hell the situation would surely have to be extremely dire to elect Harris.

                1. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: re: I like kittens.

                  Not seen it but wasnt the premise that things were enforced by gov?

                  A fascist, theocratic, patriarchal state.

                  Where women are just chattal to **** and make babies.

                  The kind of thing white supremacists and the Trad Wife movement espouse.

                  Here's an article in simple language:

                  https://www.teenvogue.com/story/how-trad-wives-help-spread-christian-nationalism

                  1. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: re: I like kittens.

                    @AC

                    "A fascist, theocratic, patriarchal state."

                    A state not the whole country? As I said I never watched it. And since the decision is at state level some states are very strict on abortion and some allow killing after birth. And people can move states.

                    "The kind of thing white supremacists and the Trad Wife movement espouse."

                    So a small group of people and free to choose that life or not?

                    I dont see where this fear of enforced dystopia is coming from when there doesnt seem to be any force.

                    1. Anonymous Coward
                      Anonymous Coward

                      Re: re: I like kittens.

                      A state not the whole country?

                      Don't be facetious.

                      I dont see where this fear of enforced dystopia is coming from when there doesnt seem to be any force.

                      That would depend whether you'll end up a Martha or an Unwoman?

                      1. Anonymous Coward
                        Anonymous Coward

                        Re: re: I like kittens.

                        @AC

                        "Don't be facetious."

                        Again I have not seen it, it was an actual question of your meaning of 'state'.

                        "That would depend whether you'll end up a Martha or an Unwoman?"

                        And that being the TV show, but where is this relation to reality? So where is the "fascist, theocratic, patriarchal state"? This reminds me of the claims against Trump the first time planning to be some authoritarian villain (which he didnt), only to then complain he wasnt some authoritarian villain when covid hit.

                    2. Anonymous Coward
                      Anonymous Coward

                      Re: re: I like kittens.

                      There are moves to prohibit pregnant women from travelling out of their home state for medcial treatment. Texas is leading that charge with Ken PAxton at the head.

                      That is anti-constitutional but they don't care.

                      Remember that the incoming POTUS has Elon at his side who hails from Apartheid era South Africa. Coloureds needed passes to go into white enclaves.

                      The next 4 years (or 12 if Trump tears up the constitution) will see the USA become like Argentina in 2024 where the vast majority of the population are living below the poverty line.

                      Forget paycheck to paycheck. This is 100 times worse. The homeless will be in the 20-50 million range.

                      Never mind CodeJunky, you have your black MAGA hat to wear (made in China)

                      1. Anonymous Coward
                        Anonymous Coward

                        Re: re: I like kittens.

                        @AC

                        "There are moves to prohibit pregnant women from travelling out of their home state for medcial treatment. Texas is leading that charge with Ken PAxton at the head.

                        That is anti-constitutional but they don't care."

                        Thankfully being anti-constitutional it probably wont succeed or happen.

                        "Remember that the incoming POTUS has Elon at his side who hails from Apartheid era South Africa. Coloureds needed passes to go into white enclaves."

                        And nothing to do with the president nor the US. Remember the racism fears didnt happen when he was previously the president.

                        "The next 4 years (or 12 if Trump tears up the constitution) will see the USA become like Argentina in 2024 where the vast majority of the population are living below the poverty line."

                        Why and how? Noting Trumps economy was so good that Obama still tries to claim credit for it right up until covid.

                        "Forget paycheck to paycheck. This is 100 times worse. The homeless will be in the 20-50 million range."

                        I see your crystal ball.

                        "Never mind CodeJunky, you have your black MAGA hat to wear (made in China)"

                        I really dont. I am watching this from the UK.

                    3. Anonymous Coward
                      Anonymous Coward

                      Re: re: I like kittens.

                      codejunky> and some allow killing after birth

                      Do they? 312 week abortions? Is that linked to 2nd amendment rights?

                      1. Anonymous Coward
                        Anonymous Coward

                        Re: re: I like kittens.

                        @AC

                        "Do they?"

                        Look at late term abortions that abortion can happen throughout, but also look at partial birth abortion. People are quick to jump on one extreme of no abortion but not the other extreme.

  10. Luke Worm
    Facepalm

    Trade deficit?

    But .... Trump has said he is very concerned about the US trade deficit. A $100B foreign investment will make the balance $100B worse.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Trade deficit?

      Not if it's immediately spent on foreign hookers and imported drugs.

      1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

        Re: Trade deficit?

        How about investing in the production of illegal drugs in the US for once? Finally do something useful in West Virginia!

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Re: Trade deficit?

          Where are you going to get skilled chemists?

          I suppose you could get H1Bs if you can demonstrate there is nobody in WV with the necessary skills

    2. Tilda Rice

      Re: Trade deficit?

      >But .... Trump has said he is very concerned about the US trade deficit. A $100B foreign investment will make the balance $100B worse.

      Inward not outward investment

    3. O'Reg Inalsin Silver badge

      Re: Trade deficit?

      I don't think your assertion that foreign investment simply increases the deficit is 100% correct.

      The US runs a huge merchandise trade deficit, also known as the "US trade deficit", that you mention. That includes goods and services.

      Much of that money comes back to the US - if only because exporters need to do something with their earned dollars that doesn't cause their own currency to appreciate (because a surfeit of dollars would drive down the dollar), which would kill their exports. The main avenues for investment are (1) US Bonds, (2) Stocks, (3) Direct investment in US businesses.

      Because these return investments keep the dollar from dropping, they keep foreign imports cheaper, preventing competition from US domestic competitors. On the other hand it is great for the financial engineers on Wall Street, for political parties that need a limitless debt ceiling to preserve their preferred status quo, for bit coin bros, AI hype professionals, and so forth. There really is so much investment capital floating around that it makes more economic sense to surf short term hype waves than be stingy with it and worry about realistic long term future returns.

      So indirectly, your assertion could be correct - if a good part of that $100B goes into investments that are based more on hype than careful long term reasoning, thus ensuring that the merchandise trade deficit continues.

      If however, the money is invested in ways that improve much needed US competitiveness in goods and services, then it could theoretically improve the merchandise trade deficit - contradicting your assertion.

  11. The Godfather

    Was this not the same promise made by Trump in 2016? Which delivered nothing.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      No, this is an entirely new promise by Trump which will deliver .....

    2. Tilda Rice

      Nothing?

      https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm

      S&P in 2017 and 2019 produced massive returns (pensions, for US and non US investors / pensioners)

      No new wars. Peace in the middle east.

      I know this isn't the right place for being objective, but any headline / policy / macro level measures from his first term were pretty good.

      Oh sorry, back to calling him juvenile names. Carry on

  12. ecofeco Silver badge
    FAIL

    Pledges?

    So... vaporware. For tax breaks.

    Got it.

  13. pimppetgaeghsr

    SP500 sell signal.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Yay! Jobs"

    Create 100,000 jobs to build the (AI based?) tech to put 500,000+ people out of work. All for the bargain price of $1M per job, apparently.

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